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Post  Angantyr on Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:13 pm

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Post  Kretti on Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:09 am

Heard that, teens? Jerking off makes you weak!

EDIT: I find this a more worrying than impotence.
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Post  Broomstick on Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:46 am

Thanks for posting. Shocked

I guess it's just in time... I hope. Razz
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Post  Amon on Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:48 am

Very useful.


Angantyr, it is time to reopen the can of porns with a TS discussion. Date?
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Post  Harkon on Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:40 pm

Important point for reflection :

Is masturbating while thinking of women you really know, but are not involved with, okay then?
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Post  Aðalráðr Vigfússon on Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:16 pm

We all know that this will not happen when we watch my porn Very Happy
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Post  Harkon on Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:58 pm

I'm quite fond of your latest piece of work, "Adventures of Captain Folms : In Search for Moby's Dick!".
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Post  Aðalráðr Vigfússon on Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:11 pm

I am thinking of livestreaming my art lol
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Post  Fennris on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:04 am

FFS, now what should I spent my evenings on? Crying or Very sad

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Post  Godnoken on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:59 am

Real life porn

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Post  ZnurX on Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:40 pm

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Post  Angantyr on Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:04 pm

It's interesting to see Science's variant of old Catholic doctrine on mastubation.. These might also well be Catholic scientists, though religion is not necessarily a hindrance for conducting science as a great majority of History's greatest scientists have been Muslim or Christian, but the rhetoric comes off as a bit of a 'crusade' at times.

The real 'science' parts were at times unsettling and there's no doubt that modern internet culture has some severe psychological repercussions but it is at times slightly difficult to take the speaker seriously, especially the 'example interviewee' was far-fetched, and that abstinant group's rhetoric was straight out of classic abstinence and celebecy philosophy, and the ascetic element present in most faiths throughout history.

Also, the listed psychological illnesses are commonly attributed to numerous other phenomena in postmodern society, which is of course not to say they are not also caused by overstimulation by internet porn or whatever. If nothing else we'll evolve into something else, there's already less testosterone in young men and boys than there were just a generation ago (explains the hair, clothing and music Wink ).


And yes, Amon, we'll start the task force first thing tomorrow morning.
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Post  Amon on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:13 pm

The phenomenon of porn addiction has been reported before though, I do not have the sources atm but I read on it in the past. This guy is clearly making a melodramatic salespitch but it get the message across.

A serious oration might have difficulties reaching a wide audience as his agitation does.

The science however is plausible. The addiction like general internet/gaming addictions is real.
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Post  Jur on Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:29 am

You can be addicet to anythinh in my opinion. I am addicted to meat Smile
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Post  Amon on Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:53 am

That is surely right Jur.

There are differences in efficiency though, some substances or behaviours stimulate stronger rewarding (hormone) reactions than others. Each organism reacts differently but adheres to similar mechanisms.
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Post  Godnoken on Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:28 pm

Addiction is bullshit

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Post  Kretti on Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:08 pm

Godnoken wrote:Addiction is bullshit

- A teenager with a manhandled willie. I also bet you've never smoked, little miss Innocent!

@Angantyr, cultures without a straight touch to Christianity have been known to view jerking off as negative activity. I've heard of some mongolian sources (and Asia in general isn't big about hedonism) stating that Tsingis Khan, for example, discouraged his sons to masturbate, as the lust would eventually become a frenzy and you'd have to do it every night to satisfy your needs. It was also viewed as a sign of weakness and lack of discipline (as it has been for the whole time porn's been available in Finland, until now when kids just grow into it). I would also note that Tengrism was/is a shaman-based belief, and therefore didn't apparently require much participation or any asceticism from the common folk.

This is not entirely in defense of the TED speaker, just pointing out that people have seen these effects (or rather their symptoms) before. And that's not bad compared to early Christianity's "sex is only a revolting necessity in order to get more people". To connect asceticism and celibacy to most faiths of the world is quite over the top actually. Wink
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Post  Harkon on Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:15 pm

What Kretti lacks in social aptitude, he sure makes up for in general knowledge.
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Post  Kretti on Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:31 pm

If I could, I would throw a friendly (though a little too hard) punch to Harkon's shoulder at this point, just to prove that my social skills are decent, while I, as a person, am not.

And who was it that couldn't bring himself to getting a mic?
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Post  Angantyr on Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:56 pm

@Amon, I would never doubt the solidness of the science behind this. I am myself heavily addicted to the internet (and I have had other addictions close enough to me to know the mental aswell as physical consequences).

@Kretti, interesting about the Mongols, I know this belief has been widespread in other parts of Asia too, feudal Japanese martial culture for example, which preached abstinence before battle (and other martial arts) for improved focus. Though you would think full abstinence would be equally unbalanced.
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Post  Kretti on Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:12 pm

Though you would think full abstinence would be equally unbalanced.

Eh, judging by my personal experience over the matter, full abstinence does make it easier to focus on pretty much everything, but it takes around 1-2 months for the effect to kick in. Before that your mind's likely to be bogged by all kinds of shit. When you've been without for long enough, you learn to channel the sex-drive for other purposes, like sports (I prefer competitive martial arts, there's some strange aggression that builds up, likely due to excess testosterone).

Spoiler:
Yeah, I tested it out during my teen years.


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Post  Angantyr on Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:18 pm

19th century European writers, philosophers (Søren Kierkegaard for example) and other artists also preached that it helped forcus the creative mind.

I actually asked my biology teacher about this subject many years ago, here in regards to martial arts, and he echoed my sentiment that for example an excess of testosterone would make you less focused, but neither of us have any practical experience.
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Post  Kretti on Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:23 pm

I'll stand by that. Laughing A lot of martial arts is about intimidation and aggression though, unless you're into purely technical styles.

To go back to the East, there's also this interesting thing in Chinese (possibly Japanese, I can't remember) beliefs that chi ("life force" or a certain form of vital power) is released during male ejaculation to provide for the child that grows inside the womb. Some of the old-wise guys didn't want this to happen, obviously, as they wanted to have all the power for martial arts, so they found out that there's this spot between your ass and balls (the vein through which the siemen goes through) which, when pressed during ejaculation, prevents the release of siemen and releases it into blood circulation, allowing you to have an orgasm without losing that precious chi.

There's always a way around these things. Even Catholics have their pretty little choir-boys.

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The following is a quote:

In Taoist sex traditions, the man has his orgasm without ejaculating. He injaculates, instead. By pressing an acupuncture point located halfway between the anus and scrotum, the ejaculation can be reversed into an improved orgasm and the semen is recycled from the full prostate and reabsorbed into the blood. This point is known as the Jen-Mo (Conception Meridian) acupuncture point. When pressed with a finger, this point feels as if there is a small indentation or hole in that location.

When the Jen-Mo point is pressed just prior to an anticipated ejaculation, the energy goes up into the body through the meridians which originate at this point, instead of going out of the body as it does during ordinary ejaculation.
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Post  Angantyr on Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:57 pm

Just discussed this with my mother who've worked with football professionally as an organizer and she told me that it was common for football players too to stay abstinant during tournaments.
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Post  Jur on Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:36 pm

I also heard that, but I also heard that golkeapers have better reflexes or are faster if they have a lot of sex. Smile
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