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Post  Krax on Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:46 am

Anyone else play this series ? just started to play it again after X3 : Albion Prelude got out... i just love this series but then again im a fan of Space sims with resource managment / empire building

Cant wait for what they will do i Rebirth
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Re: X Universe

Post  Exceeding_Arrow on Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:12 am

X-Rebirth (Gameplay) - Gamescom 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KeXU2vGa3Q&feature=related

i'm not really into spacegames like this but it looks pretty nice!
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Re: X Universe

Post  Amon on Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:18 pm

I tried the first one but something distracted me from it I guess, traveling being quite boresome. Being a vet and fan of eve I had to try, I am pondering to take up this offer:

http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-X3GOLD/x3-gold-edition-bundle

What do you think?
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Re: X Universe

Post  Krax on Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:52 am

The game is very deep.... at first it looks abit shallow...

You can build just about any station in there but it costs ALOT of money.. There are alot of way to play the game...

Trader - You can buy ships and install software (in game) into the ship that lets it become a NPC trader... it gains levels and when it gets higher it can cover a larger area (at 12 it can become a universe trader and go where ever it wants)

Corp - you can build stations/factorys and make money that way (you can get a station manager and Transporters) they all get levels and more options.

Pirate/Privateer - You can capture other ships and sell em or keep em... there are two ways to cap em.. eighter by them ejecting (dont happen THAT often with cool ships but transporters are prone to bail hehe) or Boarding with marines (req ALOT of training both of npcs you use and you as pilot)

Mission runner - There are alot of diffrent missions from Scan x astroids, kill X, build X, buy X, Transport person/ware from X to Y etc etc etc

I can go on and on there are alot of features in the game but there is also a very active mod community so there are alot of mods (MARS is a must hehe)


Its one of those games i play for a while then stop and pick up again later...
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Re: X Universe

Post  Amon on Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:04 pm

I just bought it - now I will spend a bit time downloading with my bad connection...
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Re: X Universe

Post  Amon on Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:11 pm

Took me a while...bought the gold edition for 10 EUR. Downloaded Terran Conflict first, wasnt aware that there is one preceeding it within the pack...

Splashed once upon a station...simple left click suffices if clicked to long hehe. Captured a ship but failed to do it within mission time so they shot it down Sad

Now the puny terrans want me to do their laundry, will probably go back to Argon space and do some pirate hunting.
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Re: X Universe

Post  Krax on Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:37 am

When i get a person to bail from the ship i normal kill him hehe... also you need to spacewalk to within 40m of the bailed ship to get the option to claim it.

It will then become green and you can issue orders to it... eighter by right clicking it or via your "owned property" in the menu..

there are so mutch more maybe we need to have a short meeting on TS soon hehe.

Also by the time you are flying something with turrets you neeeed to install MARS since the vanilla turret control script cant even hit a barn door.
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Post  Krax on Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:39 am

also get a docking computer.... its sold on the teladi eq dock i think.... it instant docks you when you use the docking order within 4,5 KM

also a very good place to get your info

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Post  Amon on Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:05 am

Oh I did capture that ship after reading some guides. The time limit was just too harsh the ship making just 80 and having no time compression module. At the first attempt I thought I had to fly it manually! What a pain!

I dont have turrets yet, its an Argon elite M4+, having started as the Argon Veteran. My greatest gripe with the game is that I can't repair my hull in neither argon nor terran shipyards since I seem to lack the proper relation. I mean I am an Argon, I have an Argon pirate hunting licence, I fly an Argon ship and I also shit the Argon way...but I cant repair my ship which is in hull and thus flying slower.

Until completing some missions the Elite is my only ship, I cant trade with it and my low funds. I soon earned myself a naked M5 which is probably only good for one thing...selling it for cash. I dont have the money mods to equip it properly.

The ships I kill never spawn loot and they never bail, maybe its the missions/low reputation. Its also hard to see which mission is good for you, starting as "easy" they can become "hard" and let you fight an Xeno M6 with some buddies.

After the autopilot killed my ship a few times because it froze and unfreezing meant becoming a rocket just meters away from docking clamps I do it always manually atm. This is faster and more secure than the autopilot which often takes me 20 km away from the station to start the landing 101 sequence.

So I have been to X-Universe and got that bigass guide from Aplecot. I patched to 3.11, but yeah your advice for a good mod is quite helpful - I need that wet dream of fast docking come true! I's just that I cant find this MARS mod, using forum search and all - its for X3-TC?
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Re: X Universe

Post  Krax on Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:15 pm

The learning curve is quite steep... but ones you get over the first hill its alot more interesting...

MARS

you can repair by space walking and point at your ship while clicking RMB (its normaly Shift + E i think or click the middle white icon lower left

Best way to cap is to use a laser that do mostly shield dmg....

You can look at all the lasers with stats under Personal (the icon top left) - adv - Encyclopedia (best 2 are Pulsed beam emitter (17k shield dmg 700 hulldmg) and Phased repeater gun) they give you a fast strip of shield and controlled hull dmg.... also try to go for the "Duke's transport ships" they travle everywhere and are very easy to start caping... and no rep hit (them being pirates)

the Encyclopedia also tells you where shit is sold... also every usefull....

And print out or keep a sector map on your 2'th screen is also usefull....
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Re: X Universe

Post  Amon on Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:28 pm

Thanks for the link. That german guy also sells pottery. ^^

Sounds like this makes the game much much easier in combat, I hope it will not turn into a effortless turkeyshoot with MARS+Goblins. But I need those goblins to loot obviously hehe

EDIT

I see that this mars & drones stuff is for rich people, hmm so how can I repair my lowly M4+ without having access to repair drones? Stations wont let me and ejecting I dont get an option to repair.

Upon searching I found various mods that are rather like cheats in this regard. I dont mind paying the bill its just that they wont let me!

Are there any good big mods/total conversions out there you can recommend like http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=304158&highlight=repair

EDIT II

Found the solution. They wouldnt let me repair because each % repairs costs 8000+ credits which I dont have, not the whole repair! Thats a rediculous steep price for a beginner who gets less that that for a single mission! So i used the handheld torch...

EDIT III

Getting the hang of it. A patrol mission led me to a Xeno-sector in which there was no survival, so reloading those guys came at me in the friendly sector, after a couple of reloads which enabled me to learn combat the hard way I am beginning to get the hang of it. Disengaging to recharche shields and weapons from time to time I shot down a couple of M and N's. Weird names for ships - the numeration makes not much sense and seems to be result of many adjustments. Well the loot was bountyful and after the P was destroyed by a Barracuda and its escort fighting alongside me, the loot tallied 70k credits. I am getting somewhere now and upgraded the ship a bit.

I am thinking of outfitting the M5 as an automated looter and maybe get some 25MW shields, I only have 2x5MW which feels suboptimal.
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Post  Krax on Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:43 pm

you damn germans never listen..... go into space.... get out of your spaceship..... turn..... aim at your ship..... click your right mouse button.... see that red laser hiting your ship.... thats your repair laser... no cheat.... hehe try repairing anything larger than a m5 with it and it will take hours... if not days...

but quick fix for a M4

oh and its free.... no get your figers dirty... ! (and cap some traders)

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Dock at the HQ in home of light there you can buy salvage insurance.... that will enable you to save while inflight..... so pick someup (think they are 3k a pop) find a lone pirate or a pirate transport.... just before you are about to engage save and reload if he didnt bail... its hard to get started with the start you picked anyway.... its better to choose one marked easy the first time around... the dif. is really only the start money / ships you get. ALSO if you so choose there are "abandoned" ships around in TC in fixed places so just got get one of those and sell it... you be set for awhile.... dont worry a few mil. is nothing in this game... your not rich until you get atleast a few 100 mil...


In my current game im only at around 100mil now... i got 1 large complex with factorys that iv setup to support my future fleet with missiles. (it contains 13 factorys atm hehe so its starting to hurt my bottom line.)
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Post  Krax on Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:48 pm

NICE !

ones you get a handle on that we can start talking about remote ship controll... seting up sector traders and universe traders...(thats why its nice to cap those juicy haulers... you can have em work for you... hehe just need Tradesoftware MK3 (sold at terracorp HQ) ((where you get the salvage insurance))

Also the function i use most is Remote best buy (think you get it from tradesoftware MK2) have that in a trader that you dont control and just have that get the wares you dont want to spend time looking for like 25k shields... HEPT's etc etc
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Re: X Universe

Post  Amon on Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:01 pm

I didnt mean the lasertorch when I said cheating, rather the mods that allow for repairs without costs.

I have this measly 5k cred mission to the xeno sector still...I do hit and runs now, killing one or two of their craft who notice me. I shot down an L this way and I am now at 150k selling loot.

I will explore some more after this to find the home of light and try to get some ships. I am buying equipment for my bonus M5 to use it as a compagnion/looter.
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Re: X Universe

Post  Krax on Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:42 am

Personaly id start TC with the Terran defender since that plot is aimed at new players and the rewards for the main plot is nice... you even get your own shipyard i think...

also get X-universe plugin manager 1.40 so mutch easyer to remove or add mods that way.... also have some basic usefull mods that isnt cheats... like Adv nav commands, hotkeys, eq research, early warning sat network (also comes with the bonus pack released.) Iv installed the adv jumpdrive since im so sick of picking up e-cells... (it do cost like 10 mil tho so its not like you get it for free)

Im starting a new game now myself in TC now.
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Post  Amon on Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:53 am

I guess I stumbled upon the terran plot on my first journey and finished the first terran mission which gives you that M5 Rapier or sth like this. I just have the mission on hold playing in Argon space because I thought I could only repair there, and my argonese pirate licence ofc.

I am not that picky about modding, I guess the repair search just threw some of the cheesy ones at me hehe.

I am looking forward to a jumpdrive as well but since I only see a couple of systems woulndt make much sense. I have beyond 200k now and the ship is pretty maxxed out. I even bought a MARS just to test it, so far it doesnt anything. Might be because all my current 4 guns are pointed forward, the aft slot being empty - so no turrets to take over.

They wont let me finish the patrol mission in the Xenon sector and I certainly cannot clear it of the Xenons either who have a couple of capitals there...
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Post  Krax on Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:49 pm

well you do need to activate the MARS.... its done by SHIFT - C and turrent commands set those to MARS offence....

This is the mod list for my current TC game

Adv. jumpdrive
Adv. navigation software
Equipment research and development
Galactic news system
Military base response revamp
Satellite Early warning network
Pirate Starts
Comunity Plugin conf.
Hotkey manager
JSON parser library
Ware manager
ADS.SPK
ECS.SPK
Numeric_rank_TC.spk <----- this is a realllllly MUST HAVE ... all it does is put a number before your rank.... as the ranks are so fucking confusing and tells me nothing hehe
Pirate.guild.spk

Im playing as a pirate. I started as a pirate captain.
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Post  Amon on Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:33 pm

Whoa what a list!

I use the jane soft mod enabler software to plug in ( unplug mods easily without damage to game files. Very comfortable.

Since I started already I will not add too many mods, maybe those which are save game compatible.

I capped a hauler now and also an elite. Together with the two M5 I have a small fleet of naked ships. You never get to buy and weapons or shields though. I went to Teladi space and have the best buy/sell software now. to bad you can only install one instead of getting one for the trader too.

So except for shields and weaponry I have everything a trading hauler needs I think. Its potential escort lacks the same.


Going after your advice I took on the second terran mission which lets me follow up on a pirate xenon coop. Having to scan an active pirate station they spawn 3 Xenon N's and 3 Pirate M4's which I cannot possibly beat atm. Will try to activate MARS :wickedgrin: maybe it clears the sky for me and a brighter future for the kids...

EDIT

Mars doesnt work still. Do I have to activate the autopilot to use it? Can it use my frontal guns at all? I turned it into offensive mode and gave it all the turrets. hmm

I did it another way, I dragged the 3 Ns out, destroyed them and then let the rest in a circle so I could go to the station scan it and on the way out cap an N.

I outfitted the 2nd Elite now but it still has no shields. Otherwise its combat worthy. Does it make sense to take it as my wingman?
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Post  Exceeding_Arrow on Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:28 pm

could you guys post some screenshots to make the rest as excited as you are?
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Re: X Universe

Post  Krax on Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:56 am

you can remote buy from the "My property" meny....

you need a trade system extention installed in the ship you are on or dock at the same station---


then goto property



hit trade and you are trading with that station as you where in that ship... regardless where in the galaxy you are...



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Post  Amon on Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:46 am

I see that you've been a busy bee yesterday! I got myself 4 25MW shields so I have enough for myself and the hauler which I capped yesterday. I will read some tutorial how to operate it and Mars itself again Smile

So do you use a wingman? I have the Elite now fully equipped.
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Post  Krax on Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:24 pm

Not when im caping... too messy with two ships shooting at the poor trader... well maybe ones i go after those M6-7's but then ill prolly use wings instead..
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Post  Krax on Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:08 pm

I'll try and post a nice fight i had with a boron hydra (M6) in my nova... i really was sure id have no chance in hell as my ship was battered like hell (it had almost no shields and 57% hull left at the start of the fight)

I dono mutch about video editing tho so we will see.... the raw movies is 4gig and 3 min long hehe feels about wrong to upload that...

Edit 1 :
Well the rendered one looked like shit so im uploading the raw file to youtube maybe that will work better....
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Post  Amon on Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:24 pm

Oh nice. I dont have any good screenies as I never take them with my slow ass computer and the resulting bad graphics...

You did kill a M6 solo in your M3? I have a hard time surviving an M6 passing by hugging asteroids and generally staying the hell away!

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/falconw.jpg/

This shows off my latest achievement. My own Falcon, captured in space when the pilot did not stomach fighting me anymore.

My fleet is growing and consists of two transports (7k and 4k storage) 3 M5 2 M4 and this one M3. I have been doing some low end trading but stocked up on weapons now which I hope to turn into some neat profit using the M3 and M4's now to quickly get around. Cash is at 400k while I sill have some invested in goods.

Its a great recommendation Krax. Thanks.
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Post  Krax on Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:07 am



I wasnt prep'ed for this fight at all since i started at 20% shield and 57% hull and all i had of laser where my cap lasers (heavy shield dmg very low hull dmg)

luckly for me the boron hydra have very few turrets... so it has a large blind spot.... problem is that if i get in the front and the main guns sees me im more or less dead hehe.... enjoy... (best in fullscreen tho)

oh and to compaire this is the stats

Nova raider - hull 9,500 Shield 75MJ

Boron Hydra - hull 54,000 Shield 600MJ
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